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. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit high today. they are teaming up with china mobile, giving access to the world's biggest mobile phone markets. >>> if you just got up, very warm welcome to the start of your global trading day. stocks are on the front foot this morning. this is where we stand with u.s. futures. currently called up around about 30 points higher. the dow down, what, 13 points? the nasdaq called up just under 40 points. the s&p 500 at the moment is called up just over three points. it was down two points yesterday. european stocks doing a little built better. they were as flat as a pancake, as i've been saying. as flat as my pancakes.
that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> the white house rejects a republican counter offer. >> john boehner sent a proposal that offers more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions but no tax increase. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. >> folks worried about the fiscal cliff, are you like me? are you worried about it and have no idea what it is? >> according to state tv iran's revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone after it entered the iriranian air space over the persian gulf. >> but u.s. navy official says there are no missing drones. >> prince william and his wife katherine, expecting their first child. >> after the duchess was admitted to hospital. >> that child could grow up to be one of the most powerful unemployed people in the world. >> a search is under way in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. >>> rg3, he made opportunities. >> 17-16 washington redskins. >> all that -- >> why don't you shut up? >> you are an embarrassment. >>
republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
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tells us, there's still a disagreement over how to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> reporter: three republican and three democratic governors gate the president their take on how to avoid the "fiscal cliff" this morning at the white house. >> we're not sort of saying it should be that plan or that plan. i think what we all agree on is something has to get done. >> as governors we think it's important that we're part of the discussions both in terms of the impact it has on our finances and our economies. >> reporter: state government cost lose much-needed federal aid if democrats and republicans don't reach a deal to stop automatic spending cuts before the end of the year. the other issue is taxes. congressional republicans want bush-era tax cuts extended for all americans. president obama says those tax cuts must expire for households making $250,000 or more. >> it's a position that is supported by a majority of the american people. and, you know, we need to see from republicans an acknowledgement of that. >> reporter: the gop proposal that the white house quickly rejected closes t
house republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. also president obama's getting ready to speak this hour about an urgent national security issue. u.s.-led efforts to try to track down and eliminate loose nuclear weapons. that's coming up. >>> also, frightening now revelations about an al qaeda plot for a three-part terror attack on the united states embassy in iman, jordan. i'll ask the country's foreign minister for details. he's standing by live. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this afternoon with brand-new republican offers to try to save the $2.2 trillion and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. the across-the-board spending cuts and sharp tax increases that hit in just 29 days. let's get straight to our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. she's watching what's going on. dana, the tax rates, first of all, let's get to a major sticking point right now. there's been a counterproposal from house republicans to the white house. you have details. >> reporter: that's right. let's start exactly where you just began on those tax rates because t
if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> this is a compromise on taxes. this is a compromise on mandatory spending. and it's a compromise on discretionary spending over what the select committee had debated. >> i should mention that erskine bowles has put out a statement himself. while i'm flattered the speaker would call something the bowles plan. the outline in the letter the speaker sent to the president does not represent the bowles simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan in my testimony on deficit reduction. i simply took the mid point of the public offers, put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not
averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he's even ventured outside the beltway rallying supporters to do just that. >> i'm going to be asking for you to be making your voices heard. >> reporter: why isn't he calling speaker boehner? >> we speak frequently. >> reporter: when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> i don't think the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: in part, the white house was burned with the negotiations in 2011 when lots of meetings failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term the best way to break washington stalemates, rally the public to their cause. here's how the president put it to cbs news. >> so getting out of this town, spending mo
the fiscal cliff, and achieving t the balance the white house says it wants. i made clear we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately, many democrats continue to rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now,
to president obama's plan to keep us from falling over the fiscal cliff after the white house sent geithner to the hill last week outlining the democrats' plan which the republicans called "a joke." we are less than a month from going over the fiscal cliff and the term economists call the series of spending cuts and expiring tax breaks that will take effect the first of the year. that could cost millions of jobs and lead to a new recession. it is basically austerity on steroids. republicans with their counteroffer today again reject the president's plan if higher taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year. wendell is live at the white house. if they reject that i don't know how far this will go. the president could blink but his eyes seem wide open. >>reporter: it is a nonstarter if they reject continuing the upper income tax cuts. the republicans say the plan cuts the deficits by $4.6 trillion based on the white house method of counting based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would
it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised
if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff because this is a compromise on taxes. this is a compromise on mandatory spending and it's a compromise on discretionary spending over what the select committee had debated. >> the details if we can and i should mention that erskine bowles put out a statement saying this -- does not represent the bowles-simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan. in my testimony before the joint select committee on deficit reduction, i simply took the midpoint of the public offers to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaking boehner's letter, but the question i wanted the to ask you -- >> can we spend one more point on that? >> of course. >> what did he say? that was the midpoint of a compromise from the two. so, here's speaker boehner who is taking a new point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it and it's already flatly rejected? >> i think what he might be rejecting, sir, if i may -- >> no, i'm not talking abo about erskine bowles. >> i think what he's sayin
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and everyone else who has come through capitol hill and the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. for the first time since this drama began to play out on a very public stage, yesterday there were no substantive negotiations or conversations whatsoever, none at all. and here is what the public thinks about all this. if, in fact, the nation does go off the fiscal cliff and negative consequences ensue, by a two to one ratio, by the most recent poll, it will blame republican, not the white house. the white house knows this, believes it's in a strong position and intends to use that leverage when and if negotiations begin. for "cbs this morning," major garrett at the white house. >>> federal health officials are watching a medical crisis, an earlier-than-usual flu season. the south is already hit hard, one month earlier. three school systems in tennessee say so many teachers and students are sick, they've closed for the rest of the week. health officials also say this year' flu strain is making patients sicker than normal. the good news, this year's vaccines seem to work well against
at 2 p.m. eastern time, about the fiscal cliff all part of the white house's my2k twitter campaign w-9 president drumming up support for taxes on the rich. george hw bush in stabbe condition after receiving stream for a bronchitis-related cough. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for a week receiving treatment visited by several of his children including former president george w. bush. the royal family getting a new member. the st. james' palace saying they are expecting a baby. the queen and members of the both pams are delighted with the news. the duchess is in the very early stages of pregnancy. those are the head lines. >> oh, that's fun. a royal baby. >> yes, thank you, lauren greern. >> sure. >> to charlie, the president must want fat cats to support the plan to end the fiscal cliff impasse. we have the behind the scene meetings between the executives. >> caught a lot of people by surprise. it was last week where deputy secretary of state, tom nides, went to the city, held a series of meetings, which senior wall street executives, the two meetings i know about, larry fink,
the fiscal cliff. mr. obama and house speaker john boehner took a step yesterday, speaking about the standoff on the phone. i guess at least they weren't texting, right? while the details of their chat remain private, both men continued to talk past each other in public. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more, more of their money to the federal government, without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> treasury secretary tim geithner also weighed in yesterday saying the president is willing to allow the nation to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> we are learning new details about colorado's shooting suspect james holmes now that thousands of e-mails in the case have been released. messages indicate holmes may have had a brief romantic relationship in the days before the tragedy. we have learned that in early june, holmes began specifically talking and fantasizing about killing a lot of people. his psychiatrist was so worri
for its lackluster performance. republicans submitted their solution to the fiscal cliff yesterday. white house and other democrats dismissed it immediately. take a look at how that affected the market this morning. not at all. the dow is up 43. 13,000 is where we are. liz macdonald says we will see is a last minute deal, christmas eve, new year's eve, on the fiscal cliff. we shall see. next, a special early my take. i am fired up about the prospect of ambassador anna wintour. i couldn't wait for the normal time. i'm going to do it early. stay right there. and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. that's why ally has ia raise your rate cd.n. ally bank. your money needs an ally. stuart: california high taxes, strict green laws, a liberal supermajority in the statehouse, not exactly business friendly. that's why so many businesses are leaving. they are going to places like phoenix. so we're going to talk to the mayor of phoenix. greg stanton, what is he offering to the california refugees to get them to come
, the president and the white house shoots down the republican's offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. is he really looking to compromise or is it the president's favorite deal no deal at all? laura ingraham weighs in live from washington in moments. >> brian: the dare program teaches kids about the dangers of drugs, won't talk about pot anymore. the reason? kids will smoke it anyway. they're giving up. really? really? "fox & friends" starts now. >> steve: that is something that they're scratching pot off the list. >> brian: it's legal now in some states and people are making believe they have illnesses so they can smoke it and buy it with prescriptions. >> gretchen: you don't have to make anything up. you can say you have a headache. >> brian: in colorado? can you write a -- you can't, but could dr. siegle? >> steve: for medical marijuana. >> brian: in new york? >> steve: i bet he could if if were legal here. >> gretchen: he was going to sew up your coat and so much more earlier today. >> brian: i don't need a surgeon necessarily. >> gretchen: let's get to your headlines. fox news alert. this one
congressional leaders and the white house to add vert the fiscal cliff scheduled for tomorrow, but, guess what? the president will not be attending it, secretary tim geithner will. regardless of the -show tomorrow, president obama is hopeful to get a deal done by christmas, not inspiring confidence for pushing small businesses as key democrati leaders refuse to put entitlements on the table. for more on all of this, republican congressman langford of oklahoma. congressman, welcome back, always great to have youere. >> thank y very much. gerri: president with strong words for congress. here's what he had to say. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next wreer. right now, as we speak, coness can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. gerri: there's the president calling out congress. what do you have to say, congressman? >> yeah, here we go in the middle of this. the house passed all our tax things in april. we passed the sequestering documents in may. we waited for the sen
house is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff this january. that's the word from treasury secretary timothy geithner who appeared yesterday in an interview with cnbc. taxes are still the major impact and geithner says there is no path to an agreement that does not involve a tax hike on the wealthiest 2%. even some members of the g.o.p. are encouraging lawmakers to support the tax hikes in exchange for a broader deal on health and retirement programs. mainly republicans want to see an increase in the medicare eligibility age as well as a smaller amount of inflation applied to social security. the longer speaker boehner waits on a compromise, less bargaining power he will have. many say now is the time to give in on taxes. it is a big day in washington state for same-sex couples who will be able to pick up their wedding certificates today. voters in washington, maine and maryland approved same-sex marriage on the ballot in november. and yesterday, governor chris gregoire signed that into law calling this the las
of progress. but yes, the white house would, "absolutely go over the fiscal cliff" if the republicans would not raise tax rates. now republicans are pointing back to july 2011. this statement by president obama. >> yes, said give us $1.# trillion in additional revenues that could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes. eliminating deductions. and engaging in a tax reform process that could lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> bret: the white house is saying it's out of context but not specifically how out of context. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles? >> look, i love when the president says we need conceptual break through. meaning the republicans have to accept a hike in rates. what he means is a political surrender. because there is no economic reason why you cannot raise the money he wants raised. by doing it through eliminating deductions, inclusions and credit. number one as we saw he, himself, said so. a y
will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes. >> so the white house now, christine, is insisting that they won't talk specifics on entitlement reform, which is what republicans want until they budge on those income tax rates, budging on increasing them for wealthy americans. as you know, republicans at this point dug in saying they're not going to do that. the white house feels they have the upper hand here because so many americans, we talked about 7 in 10 think those income tax rates should go up. >> this is a proposal, there are some differences, bowles would not have raged the eligibility age for social security. what does he think of this plan? >> he also thinks another big thing is missing, that's increasing those tack rates for wealthy americans. here's what he said. >> i am positive to get a deal done you will have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. i'm equally sure the $350 billion worth of cuts that the president put on the table for health care entitlements is not going to be sufficient to get the deal done. there will have to be compromise. >> the w
for the wealthy and quote, sticks the middle class with the bill. so with 29 days to go until the fiscal cliff, what would it take to get a deal? joining me now, men on opposite sides, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so
the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall ov
, this fiscal inclusiver cliff, you have to use the weakness to buy. you're not chasing the strength. housing for sure, but i would also say go to where the companies reported in the third quarter, where did they deliver in the face of all this? who beat? >> where were they? >> starbucks, facebook, amazon, emare son electric, so there are several good companies doing goodening in the face of this. i'm not that crazy about special dividends. i would much rather see them invest in their business. >> so the techie companies, they're not going to do one-time dividends. what you're saying is don't chase that. >> yeah, you don't buy a stock because they're going to do the special dividends. >> would you by trying -- you mention emerson electric. >> we own that stock. we own caterpillar. we do own in eaton corp, they bought cooper, which is all about the grid. they just bought something they'll have 60% of their risens tied in new york america, where the growth is. >> so you're a bull. >> no i'm very selective on where i'm buying. i'm not naive to say the market will go straight up from here. it's g
house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes. >> now as soon as speaker boehner's counter offer came out, the white house communications director responded, saying this is nothing new, saying it lacks specifics. i will tell you sort of behind the scenes there was a democratic leadership aid that told cnn that actually, soledad -- this may surprise you -- that the offer passed the laugh test. it does have some of the things that were in the grand bargain, that failed grand bargain worked out between -- where president obama and speaker boehner tried to work out last year. and also -- while certainly both sides are saying that specifics are lacking, there is certainly, i think, a feeling from some democrats that maybe it could have been worse. maybe they were expecting something that in their estimation might have been even more towards what republicans would want. >> brianna keilar, thank you. i guess we're supposed to be encouraged that everybody wasn't just giggling over the proposals. rks said they laughed at the white house proposal. >>> let's get to s
's governors today on urgent talks to avoid that fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats in congress appeared no closer to a compromise. here's abc's tahman bradley. >> reporter: congressional republicans' counterproposal was dead on arrival. the white house quickly rejected the $2.2 trillion deficit reduction plan, that would raise $800 billion in tax revenue over the next decade. but the plan calls for raising the revenue without raising tax rates on top income earners, something the white house views as unacceptable. during a photo op, the president avoided questions about the gop plan. >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: a senior white house official called the proposal a step backwards. saying if republicans do not agree to some higher tax rates for the wealthy, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff, and the american people will hold them responsible. democrats also take issue with the proposal's spending cuts to medicare and social security. republican counter that tough cuts are needed to tackle the soaring debt, leaving washington locked in a stalemate, less than a
house deficit reduction package. later, nancy pelosi addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. tomorrow on ", washington "" robert -- "washington journal," robert van order on the mortgage loan forgiveness. adult'eman on being an with autism. plus, your emails, phone calls, and tweets. >> c-span, created by cable companies and venture 1979, brought to you as a public service by >> president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end the bush era tax cuts. he spoke at a manufacturing facility in hatfield, pennsylvania, for about 25 minutes. >> thank you! [cheers and applause] >> well, good morning, everybody. everybody, please have a seat, have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello, hatfield! it is good to be back in pennsylvania and it is good to be right here at connects. i want to thank michael airington and the inventor of connects, joel glickman, for hosting me today. where'd they go? stand up so everybody can see you guys. there you go! i just noticed, we got a couple of outstanding members of congress here. chaka
the rope line. he is pushing his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. is he standing firm on raising taxes for the wealthiest americans. want to bring in our chief white house correspondent jessica yell toin give us a breakdown of exactly what he has put on the table here because we know that both sides, they start off strong. they start off with the best offer they got, the strongest offer they got, and clearly, the republicans not quite happy about it. what is he offering? >> it's sort of a starting position from the white house. what secretary geithner laid out when he was visiting capitol hill yesterday was the headline $1.6 trillion in new taxes as part of their overall vision to increase those taxes for people making $250,000 more, but that also includes some changes to how much people can deduct, closing loopholes. increasing taxes for dividends and capital gains and some other things. then some other aspects of the wish list from the president. $50 billion in new stimulus spending next year, and then in return they would find $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements
a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see
republicans send the president a fiscal cliff counter offer. but will it break the stalemate? plus, searching for answers. after police say a pro-football player murdered his girlfriend. then offed himself. >> this is a real tragedy, horrible tragedy. >> it's been a very big for our challenge and for our family. >> shepard: now, witnesses and police describing how it happened. >> they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> tonight questions about the motive and what went down before the shooting began? >> plus, the race to save a little girl. >> we have searched for these -- the location of these individuals, both locally and out of state. >> a mother accused of sneaking her sick daughter out of the hospital and if doctors don't soon treat the girl, police say she could be dead within days. and wonder what you a dutches for her baby shower. prince william's wife kate is expecting a child. tonight great britain prepares to welcome a future monarch. but first from fox this monday night. the murder-suicide that has stunned pro-football. the kansas city chief players and fans
of the so-called fiscal cliff. boehner said it's time for them to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. republicans complain that for all the talk of coming up with a balanced budget plan, he has made little effort to identify specific proposals beyond increasing taxes on the wealthy. "the white house has not produced any of the balance in the president's described balance proposal that peter roscoe, the house g.o.p.'s deputy whip. boehner and the other house republican leaders will meet on thursday with treasury sec tir tim geitner and the white house's chief congressional li aison to discuss the fiscal cliff. that's the hill newspaper. here's politico this morning, inside the talk, fiscal cliff deal emerging is what some write this morning. and that's from politico this morning. first call up on our question this morning, g.o.p. says address the spending problem and in silver spring, maryland, democrat, good morning anne. caller: yes, well i would like the g.o.p. to be a little more specific because all of them who signed the pledge they want to slink government.
law. we will see what the supreme court decides in less than 30 minutes. >> fiscal cliff tops standof the average middle-class family would have to pay about $2,000 a year more in taxes. house speaker john bain of lands the stalemate on the obama administration. he says they are not taking republicans seriously and plans to close loopholes and lit it deductions without raising taxes. >> i realize of the president may not agree but if there is another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't ruin our economy why don't we consider it? >> we won them to tell the american why they won't do it. >> the democratic controlled senate has are the agreed to extend the bush tax cuts for incomes under $250,000 but let the other tax cut expire. it is predicted their rugby at least a short-term deal released before the end of the year. >> of when it comes to a president's second inauguration at the crowd tends to be smaller. that will be the case again this january. the cross the present obama as inauguration on january 21st will be close to 800,000. that is the estimate right now
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accounted for. >>> jane king live from the new york stock exchange. >>> good morning. january 1st, fiscal cliff getting closer. boehner the president a letter you lining the republicans' plan it took two hours for the white house to reject it, saying it benefits wealth any and sticks middle class with the bill. republicans want cuts to -- [ unintelligible ] we have quiet start here on wall street, positive, dow and s&p, nasdaq lower investors continuing to track what is going on in washington. bloomberg index this morning a little lower. another positive report on home prices up 6.3% in october biggest jump since june of 2006. pending forecast indicates november index up more than 7% in california better, up more than 9% in october. live at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >> you passed on grease how about a little singing in the rain? >> [ unintelligible ] >> if mike wants to sing, go ahead. >> sing and dance. >> soft shoe over there. >> i have an umbrella for you. you -- good morning. 6:48, looking from mount tamalpais this morning back down on what is mainly cloudy to the so
the white house and congressional republicans, just 29 days to go before the u.s. hits the fiscal cliff. both sides are blaming each other. timothy geithner pushing the gop to offer specific ideas and predicts they will eventually yield on raising tax rates on the wealthy. house speaker john boehner standing firm against higher taxes. sgr we' >> we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because of a small group of republicans won't extend tax rates for 2% of americans. there's no reason why that should happen. >> democratic strategy from bgr joining us. we'll always get a standoff at some point in these negotiations. is it a terminal standoff? when does somebody blink? >> it's not a matter of who will blink or not. i think that the republicans are trying to go tit for tat with the president. you have to realize that the president has the bully pulpit and the ability to command media. so the republicans feel the need to res
that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for t
. mr. dean just last night said having us go over the fiscal cliff actually wouldn't be the worst of ideas. if that's how we're going to go and president obama has said that he's not going to sign anything without the tax increase, fine, let them own it. have republicans take a step back and give president obama what he wants. >> i've got to get out. thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> howard dean, we preeshtd it. and katie pavelich, we appreciate it. >>> egypt's government deployed tanks around the presidential palace today after clashes with protesters killed seven people. in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mas
thought of slick willie today as i was listening to the reporting of the fiscal cliff. the president's point man saying of the weekend shows, higher taxes must be a part of any resolution with republicans, presumably the white house teams thinks the wealthy are where the money is. i have some news for him. that strategymay just not work. consider britain. after the government announced a plan to levy a 50 percent income tax on people earning a million pounds or more big nber of people in tt category shrunk. check out these numbers. the number of millionai tax filers in 2009. by the time, te tomb of the law went into affect it fell. the government had been its @%pes on raising two and a half billion pounds in new revenue but the law of unintended consequences to cold. suddenly and inexplicably there were 60 percent fewer millionairess. british million has contributed 13 and a half billion pounds or 9 percent of all the governme and come before the hike. fast forward. millionaire taxes raised six and a half billion pounds or less. for a half percent after the hike. that is not the comp
of the fiscal cliff talks. yesterday, the president suggested the tax changes now can be done and spending changes next year and the republicans say, not so were. second, a phone call teen the -- between the president and speaker boehner and carney said the president laid out any deal has to have an increase in tax rates but he would not be specific suggesting there is flexibility. the top rate does nut have to be 39.6 back from clinton, but something to get a deal jump started. mitt romney was here for lunch the first meeting since after the election and it was awkward and the menu included turkey chili and a white house readout said they promised to "keep in touch" if the opportunity arises where their interests intersect, maybe another way of saying not so much. >>neil: turkey chili. >>guest: healthy. >>neil: it is. and you are healthy. they are not close to a deal? they aren't close to a deal? what is the deal? we don't know. when we get a deal, and they will, it will be because of something we don't see, not something we did see. ask any sports agent, many negotiations have turned on
are necessary to avert the fiscal cliff, it is worth noting that he has abandoned any pretense of seeking a balanced approach to deficit reduction. last week's proposals in the white house amount to little more than a massive set of tax increases. by the way, far in excess of the tax hikes that he ran on or anything that senate democrats would support coupled with new spending. even democrats don't support what he called for. and his response to speaker banspeakerboehner's balanced plt year welcome back to raising taxes again. it hato cap to off, they have tn in a fresh demand that would limit any -- would eliminate, rather, any limit on the federal debt. the proposal outline bid treasury secretary geithner last week shows that if given a chance, democrats will never use new taxes to reduce the deficit. they will instead use it to pay for larger government, more public workers, and more government waste. we need to have a serious conversation about our federal debt, which is now over $16.3 trillion and going up every day. how do we get that number under control? the president and his demo
the fiscal cliff. but right now they're miles apart and digging in their heels. president obama told bloomberg tv a deal is possible, but -- >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: that plan sent to the white house offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade. that includes $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and $800 billion in new tax revenue, but here's the key. no rate increases in the top 2% of taxpayers. that's non-negotiable for president obama. >> we're not going to be able to got a deal without it. >> reporter: the white house says the republicans' math just doesn't add up. >> it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> reporter: negotiations have reached a stalemate. >> there's nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. >> reporter: there is no plan at this time for congressional leaders to meet with the president at the white house, and it doesn't sound like he's sending out invitations any time soon. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: earlie
house campaign that is aimed at getting congress to support the president's plan for avoiding the fiscal cliff. >>> if you follow the pope spiritually, you can now do it virtually. and this is very cool. pope benedict xvi's twitter account went live in seven languages today and it's got thousands of followers just within minutes even though the pope hasn't sent out a tweet yet. we're told that is to happen next wednesday. it is a bit, weird, isn't it? you have a twitter account and you to wait a week and a half for the pope to tweet. the pope says he'll kick off the twitter account with a q & a session. >> whenever the vatican does something really big and important, they always do it in multiple languages which is why they're doing this twitter feed in english and german and arabic. what will happen on wednesday is he'll be answering some questions on twitter. one of the reasons they said he wanted to get involved with this social networking site was he wanted to connect with people in social media. and so what better way than to take a few questions, #askpo questions, #askpontifex. >>
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